David Icke on Wogan Now and then (PL)Show Video Details ↓ Terry: So about 15 years ago he was ridiculed about his prophecies about natural disasters around the world and now he has a controversial new view about who is really is running the world. I'm delighted that he's agreed to come back. David Icke. [applause] … … [applause] [applause] Now, again, when I see that I'm slightly embarrassed because I thought I was a bit sharp with that comment. Well at the time I said I didn't mean it to offend you. So that interview, at the time, it changed everything for you? David Icke: Well it changed everything in the sense of I couldn't walk down any street in Britain without being laughed at by most of the people. Going in a pub there was uproar. A comedian only had to say my name to get a laugh. And what that does is it reveals to you the level of immaturity that passes for adulthood in this country, whereby clearly a guy was going through an incredible experience and instead of being mature and saying "why has this guy gone from being this, what you would call straight, normal television presenter, to how he is now? This is interesting. What's happening here?" Instead, I heard the ripples of laughter 16 years on when my name is mentioned. People just laughed. But the other which gave me a real insight, especially given what I'm doing now in my books, about how easy it is for the few to control the many. Because the many... You know, we laugh at sheep because sheep just follow the one in front. Ah, stupid sheep. We humans have out-sheeped the sheep because at least the sheep need a sheep dog to keep them in line. Humans keep each other in line and they do it by ridiculing or condemning anyone who commits the crime, because that's what it has become, of being different. I had a choice, Terry, at that point. I could have ended up, faced with that scale of ridicule, and ended up shaking in the corner or I could have said, as I did, "laugh, condemn, I don't give a damn. This is me and if you don't like me, well that's bad news because this is the only me there is and I refuse to conform and be bowed by the ridicule." And what it does, Terry, when you step out of the little box of "what will other people think, how do I put this in a way that people won't think I'm crazy?" You then realize how small a box you've actually been living in. Terry: But you do understand that, and I know you do, that you did make yourself a target because what you were saying was outlandish. It was, by normal standards, outlandish and outrageous, very intense. Just have a look at this. What about eruption? When may we expect tidal waves, eruptions, earthquakes? David Icke: Well, because of the nature of the way the earth has been treated over a long period of time, a tremendous amount of energy has built up within the earth that cannot get out. If it doesn't get out, bang. So this is going to be released in a controlled manner, or as controlled as possible, through earthquakes, though volcanoes and such-like. If they don't happen... This is not punishment. If they don't happen there is no earth. Terry: See? You're still obviously bitter of both people's rejection of your ideas... David Icke: No. Absolutely not. What I am is frustrated at watching Orwell's 1984 unfold in front of our eyes by the day while people focus on who shot Phil Mitchell. That is frustrating because my children and your children... [applause] Thank you. Are going to have to live, indeed, in the timescale, so are we, because we're living in it now, when the most basics of freedoms are being taken away. This is happening all over the world and it's coordinated. Now if people want to think that that's all happening by accident, please be my guest, I don't give a damn but the evidence is that it's not. Terry: If it's controlled, it's not happening by accident. Who is controlling people or trying to control them? David Icke: Well, there is a network of families that you can take back to the ancient world, places like Babylon, Sumer, which is now Iraq, you can chart them through to Rome where they were responsible for the Roman empire and the creation of the Roman church. God save us from religion, by the way. And then they came up into Europe to become the European aristocracy and royal families. Then through the great empires of Europe, especially the British empire, but others too, these family blood lines and the secret society network through which they manipulate themselves into power, were exported all over the world. And then when the point came where the European colonial powers appeared to give independence to these countries, that was only on the surface. What actually happened was the family blood lines and the secret society network through which they manipulate was left out in these former colonies and they've gone on controlling them ever since. So what you have is a hidden hand where events are manipulated, like 9-11, which not just me but endless other researchers now around the world have taken apart the official story, it insults the intelligence of a 10 year old, and you have a hidden hand manipulating events and the whole goal of it is centralization of power, centralization of power to the point where humans are little more than controlled clowns. Terry: Who is the hidden hand? Who are these hidden hands? David Icke: This network of families I'm talking about. You find that people who are in positions of apparent power, like prime ministers and presidents, are actually puppets of the real power which doesn't put itself on public display. Why would it? I mean does anyone really think that George W. Bush is running America? He probably couldn't tie his shoelaces, never mind run a country. Let me tell you this. Tell me about the project for the new American century. Tell me about it. Terry: I know nothing about it. David Icke: Exactly. Well let me tell you then something that you should know about. And this is written down. In the 1990s, a organization was created in America called the project for the new American century. The people who created it were the people that have run the Bush administration from the moment it came to power. In the year 2000 in September, the project for the new American century produced a report, a document, calling for a series of conquests of countries, one of which was Iraq. It actually says in the document words to the effect of we must use the excuse of Saddam Hussein to go into Iraq. Terry: But can I... David Icke: No, hold a second. Terry: But I... David Icke: No, no, no, no. But this is the thing Terry, you see. Terry: You know but honestly America is an open society, isn't it? David Icke: Oh please. Terry: It's not an open society? David Icke: I've got some sea-front property in Birmingham, Terry, you might like to buy mate, honestly. [laughter] Please, please. And they say I'm crazy and weird. America is an open society? My. Terry: Well I thought in my innocence that most Americans would know what was going on in America. But you know it all and... David Icke: Oh, see now that's... You talked about cheap jibes. That's a cheap jibe. Terry: No it's not. David Icke: I'm not claiming that I know it all, I'm saying that I've been to 40 countries, I've spent enormous amount of time in America talking to people who do know what's going on, victims of what's going on, and I'm passing this over to people. Terry: Don't you see how preposterous it is? David Icke: What? The fact that you think America is an open society? Absolutely ludicrous. [laughter] I've never heard anything so stupid in your life. [applause] Terry: Thank you ladies and gentlemen. David Icke, thank you. Good luck with your mission. David Icke: Pleasure. Thank you. [applause] [applause] |